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< Spoiler Forum ~ Alternate World/Clio vs. Scout |
| One Who Walks the Earth |
| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:23 am |
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Is scout like a Clio reincarnate?
And in this alternate world, what are some differences ettweeb in and the real world? |
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| brain fog |
| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:50 am |
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As soon as the tatoo on the toe was mentioned I felt that scout was, in some way, a reresentation of Clio.
On thought i had in reading that maybe the whole book was from Clio's persepective. An escapist fantasy from a terminal brain tumor.
She dreams of the time, after her death, when her distraught boyfriend seeks out the memory of her. The core of the fantasy is that she somehow comes back from death to reunite with Eric and defeat the cancer. The cancer is transformed into the Myrocroft Ward infection.
Well I like that way off looking at the story - but it is somewhat undermined by the newspaper article and postcard at the end. Both of these sort of diminish the ways in which the story can be interprited.
I do wonder if these artifacts were after-thoughts asked for my the editors so that people would have something to hang onto at the end when they found themselves adrift in a sea of ideas and possibilities.
Personally I think the book would be better without them.
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| One Who Walks the Earth |
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:19 am |
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I agree.
It would be weird living in an alternate world, do you think there is only the grrek island of Naxos or a whole other world?
I like the idea of Clios Perspective. |
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| NicholasRidiculous |
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:49 am |
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| What evidence do we have for Clio's death? Only heresay. Ian can't remember it. Her Mum may think she died when she decided to disappear into unspace. |
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| One Who Walks the Earth |
| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:41 pm |
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| Well the book clealy states clio dies. |
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| NicholasRidiculous |
| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:12 am |
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| And you are going to believe what the book is telling you? |
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| Ben Rapp |
| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:52 pm |
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| Interesting that this is the only thread that notices Clio's cancer. I like the idea that Scout's inactive Mycroft memetic bomb is Clio's real-world brain tumour (although the book specifies no particular kind of cancer). Was Clio's death suicide, then, as it is implied Eric's real-world death must have been (if, in his case, perhaps inadvertent)? Why do none of the three LB fragments mention the cancer, even by implication - unless the assumption that both Eric and Clio (whom I take to be quite young, as Scout is) are academics or students is wrong? We assume they must be, because how else do you take a month off on a Greek island (and if you can and are working, why stay in a tent?) and because Mr Nobody is possibly a proxy for TFES. If not, then perhaps the Greek trip was a last blast on the post horn before the inevitable, rather than a simple carefree holiday. |
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| Steven Hall |
| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:23 am |
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I've been enjoying this thread a lot.
brain frog - a lot depends on whether you decide that the 'artefacts' of the final chapter are outside of Eric's text as they first appear, or could actually be a part of it. It's worth saying that the final chapter isn't the first time we get a look at that post card.
Right. That's more than enough from me.
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| kippertoffee |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:49 am |
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Crikey steven, you seem determined to frazzle my brain. I'm supposed to be working this afternoo but there's little chance of that now you've dropped that bomb
So if the final chapter are a part of Lightbuld frag 3 then that means....... that means........ AAAAGGHHH!
"half of the memory is dedicated to remembering the future"?
thanks for the "clue" steven.
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| MustBeInvisible |
| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:26 pm |
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One Who Walks the Earth wrote: Is scout like a Clio reincarnate?
And in this alternate world, what are some differences ettweeb in and the real world?
Well, a bunch of boxes and planks becomes the boat from Jaws for one thing...
I'm unclear about Clio/Scout. They are the same person in some respect, but I don't know what respect that is exactly. |
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